Hello Carlan,
Thanks again... your arguments let me surrender.
Your most powerfull peragraph was; "I think that the more ignorance a person can overcome about any subject, even the subject of better communications for everyone, the better all of us will have it tomorrow. But, I think that to think that we can overcome a communication gap of any kind by making up or inventing some other language is a mistake. A mistake that will only add to that ever-growing and plodding monstrosity I call ignorance".
You know I oppose the idea to transform Urdu language into roman-urdu, particularly for internet usage. Though its easy there to write urdu in roman but this act resists to develop urdu font and the originity of it.
Same point can be applied on thinking a new literacy formation for my personal ease.
I have been trying to learn english and I'm sill able to learn more. There is a vacume yet to be filled by more learings.
I'll never give up to think and share about new ideas and. I beleive sharing new ideas is to broadening the capability of humanity.
Thanks again.
Jeech
Ignorance can be a blessing or it can be a curse or it can be something in between. Ignorance for me has been, at one time or another, all three. It has been a blessing in that being ignorant has left me feeling self sufficient and feeling like I was invincible and that I was wise and that I was a somewhat remarkable person. It has been something in between when I wasn’t feeling particularly self-sufficient or when I felt I was vulnerable to attack from within and from without myself, and when I knew that I was more the fool when I thought I was so very wise, and when I learned, first hand, that I wasn’t any more remarkable than was the other fellow. It was a curse when I learned that my too many foolish ideas and my too many wrong opinions, and my many shallow ideals, and my down right burdensome misdeeds were costing me untold troubles and grief.
As you pointed out, people that first recognized that there was a communication gap that had to be bridged have solved many gaps in communications. Those people worked hard at developing the bridge that closed the gap for the deaf, blind, deaf-blind, and the voiceless. Those people provided a way for these handicapped persons to gain access to all kinds of information and media exchanges and, of course, all kinds of literature.
Most literature of worldly note has been interpreted into most of the significant languages of the world already and more of it is being interpreted in other languages as we speak.
Addressing the communication gap caused by the fundamental inability to express one’s thoughts clearly and with precision is a gap that may be much harder to bridge than any of the gaps previously mentioned. It seems that if a person has not learned his or her native language well and if that same person does not determine for themselves to take that native language and use it to learn one of the significant languages such as English, French, Italian, German, Hindi, Mandarin, Japanese, Swahili et cetera they will be incapable of bridging that huge gap.
I think that many people have tried to invent or to makeup their own languages over the centuries but all that they really accomplished was for themselves and for those people that they taught was that the gap between them and the rest of humanity just got exponentially wider.
It is wiser for a person to accept certain things in life as being more or less inevitable. One of those things is a person needs to be able to converse and to otherwise communicate and share ideas and other thoughts through learning well or at least to ones best ability, one of the already in-place languages.
If a person cannot learn than that person will not be able to communicate successfully no matter what “special” language he or she might be exposed.
Abstract literature can only be utilized successfully where an already in-place or base language is already used to stimulate and to otherwise help to generate thoughts. Abstract literature is just what it is and nothing more just like most other literature.
I think that the more ignorance a person can overcome about any subject, even the subject of better communications for everyone, the better all of us will have it tomorrow. But, I think that to think that we can overcome a communication gap of any kind by making up or inventing some other language is a mistake. A mistake that will only add to that ever-growing and plodding monstrosity I call ignorance.
Jeech, I appreciate that you do consider what I write and I don’t want you to give up on your ideas about formulating a “whoosh literature”. Who knows, perhaps, you will be the next Louis Braille!
Good Luck!
Thanks Carlan,
Ignorance is blessing....
Thats why I tried to discover a discoverd subject.
The people those can't hear and speak have the a communication gap. The use of language of their hands and face expresions they recover the gap. They communicate. Abstract communication?
The people those can't see, they touch and recognize the things. They communicate to the things. Abstract communication?
I can't convince fully, in english language, there are also millions of people behind me want to express their thoughts but there is a communication gap. What recovers the gap?
I wanted to creat such form of literature that is usefull to the person that belongs to another language and want to express his/her thought.
My pasion to define the literature was obviousely to define an idea. I'm sorry on choosing the words for the idea"abstract-literature". There must some other words for that..... "Whoosh Literature".
Jeech, I will try to sail some English words over the broad spectrum of the evolving and oscillating flux of our communications media that same media of which sight, hearing, and feeling was built for the ignorant as wells as the supposedly represented group here My clarity in this endeavor having been fully established by means in which only the initiated among the observable can substantiate its full capacities, of which, all or little will or can be found by you or me It is your mind and the mines below the earth that oppose such verbal and yet extraneous movement in space as well as this picture that I have painted so vividly and with no color or no shade can but expose the dullness in which that which could be created was but the wild thoughts of a endless search for what could have been dissolved assuredly in tepid and turbid mud obtained and dried to make it ever plausible to stretch beyond that which is possible to that which we know is but the rose petal falling and spiraling forever… this and that is all come back to me for the dog needs to be let out…Ah, too, late…the attitude could have been better but is it can this of known help in some weird way be of no help…only time will tell
Abstract literature is thought invoking thought that can be useful in taking us outside the “normal” and in doing that could make us think more objectively about any and all subjects. The only difficulty that I see in reading only abstract literature especially just before a person goes to sleep is that upon waking he or she might just find that they, in fact, are waking up in the exact same reality in which they fell to sleep in and by doing that even one time could cause a somewhat nauseating feeling to overwhelm them for a couple of very uncomfortable days.
After searching a lot about abstract literature on the web I don't find an existing idea of a particular literature that is written as an rhetorical abstract-art. We take an example that there are some writing contests or projects those offer a brief formation on which a writer works. If we write these formations as an rehtorical abstract-art we'll be creating a piece of abstract literature while we we'll be giving the writer a writing project in the same time. However these formations were never been written as an abstract -literature.
As me, a non english speaker and take english just as an international language. And being with abstract literature my limitaions in the language can be expanded and I would taste the flavor of my creation in the language -english. Now I'm going to define 'abstract literature'in my words. I would love to hear other definations from you.
View the dimentions first.
1- The literature that is read not to communicate.
2- The literature that doesn't need full length of a sentance.
3- That doesn't need gramatical expertise.
4- That need however the correct spellings.
5- That is read as an idea source.
6- A source of expanding the maximum use of a language.
7- The literature that communicates to the ideas not to the sentences.
Thus we can define that an abstract literature is not to communicate the details but to send messages to the reader about the idea a writer have had.
I would love to get some more definations or veiwing other dimentions.
Some opposite arguments those not fevor the idea of abstract literature or some supports... whatever you feel, feed back.
Jeech
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