we logical people see it like this that it is conceivable that life has a greater role to play than we have imagined. life may succeed against all odds in molding the universe to its own purpose. and the design of the inanimate universe may not be as detached from the potentialities of life and intelligence as scientists of the twentieth century have tended, it is the arrogance of these so call people that think they can control the masses by brainwashing them and making people think they have all the answers, the universe will fool them all -they can never outthing universal intelligence -earthmen looking up at universe and just wondering what if ------

Is there anything wrong with trying to outhink universal intelligence? by trying to outhink it we are stimulating more of our brain.

you can,t out think what created you ,just imagine you're four years old, and someone makes the following proposal, if you'll wait until after he runs an errand, you can have two marshmallows for a treat. if you can't wait until then, you can have only one-but you can have it right now. it is a challenge sure to try the soul of any four year old, it is a microcosm of the eternal battle between impulse and restraint, id and ego, desire and self-control, gratification and delay emotion allways wamting gratifiction ,there is perhaps no psychological skill where drunkers, smokers ,drugges ,and just nassty people that is more fundamental than resisting impulse whitct we call sin. it is the root of all emotional self-control whitch they have none , since all emotions, by their very nature, led to one or another impulse to act. we are all chemical and electrical and when firing right live is good and we say these are gifts ot the gods but when not working it is the work of a devil or it is mental illness , none can be proven in this form

i think theres nothing wrong to outhink universal intelligence... remember, scientist are wonderers. they are confused of anything and to understand it, they do experiments. all their minds begins with "WHAT IF?"... and look, from EINSTEIN's minds... we had made something very useful because of his imaginations...(even negative thoughts arises) what about MORSE CODE? we are experiencing a very efficient way in communications today because of that idea... what about the ASTRONAUTS? they begin on "what if... il fly into the space", right? so its nothing wrong with outthinking.... infact, for me it plays a very important role on improving our thoughts and ideas... :)

my point was you can,t out think universal intelligence you can unravel how things work and better understand them but you can,t change it but like dizzy people that can,t except the truth of logic and dizzily day dream unlike the universe whitch can only be as it is when formed, and because of physics laws and science can only be what it is , some people have no footstepts of their own to follow so follow the ones who talk smooth like some here and have you follow them into stupidity like theyselfs , but that is what the weak do follow to the same nowhere destination they are heading ,people should try thinking for themselfs and let the smooth talkers talk to their own arragant ears

Dear Warnick,

You say "you can't outthink universal intelligence". But what in name of logic is universal intelligence?

when trying to explain what universal intelligence is or means in this form without all the knowlage of the universe would be impossible, but useing our three states of consciousness,dreaming state of consciousness,waking state of consciousness and our sleeping state of consciousness,and being a soft tissue animial,and that it,s material is very venerable to allmost everthing in the universe , and yet we keep evolving it makes one feel for thoes of use that got enought earth knowlage to get this far in thinking whitch is the minority of all humans , that things were set up by an intelligent force or as many believe a god or godes or things that make us sceared shanking from fear animals comfortable in our very existence, things in the universe are opening more and more every year and is set that way so intelligence can see what the intelligence of the universe made, for what purpose who knows, that will come later , it doesn,t care how many or who sees it as long as something of intelligence sees it, thus is why it doesn,t mater that more peolpe died before they got to a conscious age of knowing the universe is there, if you shead youself of most of what was put into you by others and is what great thinkers do , you can feel the universal inteligence all around you , but to do this or not makes no difference as life is short and is best done by living dizzy lives , and going through the over powering hormone state of youth to pass on strongest genes , and then when you get old and that is very few, mother nature will let you see how she fooled you, i am just sayiny for the sake of saying i know nothing and have nothing of intelligence to say i am just saying , because why should i or anyone ulse be special when the mijority died before knowing , that is where the truth lies , not by use dizzy people that got to know we are here thinking we have all the answers to truth , just saying

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How can you impact the peace process, pay no dues, and follow no leader with a complicated agenda. Read through the site listed above.

to read through any one ulses site that is full of someone ulses brainwashing would not be logical , and to think world peace can happen with such a diverse and border laden pieces of land by people thinking they are better than others, or more superior than others ,and power ,money, and greed running this crazy world, and 6,5 billion people in the world, and people like you who talk dizzy reaching only a hand full of people is indeed dizzy thinking, and hoping dizzy, will follow dizzy

Warnic: "we logical people see it like this that it is conceivable that life has a greater role to play than we have imagined.

Yes, I agree that that is concievable.

"life may succeed against all odds in molding the universe to its own purpose. and the design of the inanimate."

This is possible, but why is it logical to believe that it is true? Logic requires verifyable evidence. What evidence is there to suggest that this may be true?

"scientists of the twentieth century have tended, it is the arrogance of these so call people that think they can control the masses by brainwashing them and making people think they have all the answers"

What reason do you have for believing that scientists are trying to brainwash people?

when i say logic i am aware that the term has many meanings and definitions, logic is to me the study of the methods and principles used to distinguish good correct from bad incorrect reasoning, i would like to emphasise the distinction between logic and psychology, psychology is where logic ends and emotion begins and emotion will win over logic every time ,when the universe was formed and put in motion it will mold to its own purpose. and the design of the inanimate. and we are as mutch a part of the mix as any, we are the universe and the universe is us, we were here as part of the mix at the start and will be there at the end, when i said the arrogance of these so call people that think they can control the masses by brainwashing them and making people think they have all the answers, i am not paraniod and think they all got together to plan this ,i meant that for there positions of power they give these impressions to justify the money and power in their group knowing that science hasn,t solved mutch in the last hundred years ask the dying that thought the medical world had answers to save there lives , like i said the science world hides it,s info for power and money , we are an animal that wamts to pass on genes first and formost and the greatest chance of doing this is through the higher position in the group, and power in the group that brings money and protection for the genes ,we can work on logic with methods, systems,and truths, but in the end in this form and limited brain size there is not logic other than what one believes , that was put on them by others before them and so it goes dizzy followed by dizzy followed by dizzy, and that is how we evolved to date so is what we are like it or not, the happiest way to go through life is letting your emotions run you like it was set up to be and you if you live long enough to know the universe is there you will be as happy as mother nature will allow