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warnick 08-23-2007, 09:42 PM why do we refer to gender after death , all cultures pass on geans on earth and when we die we would meet all thoes who pased on befor us , if no more need of male or female breeding parts and hormons,why can,t we shake this gender in live after death where there should be nothing but happyness, and love , i think that sence early evalution when mane became the more aggressive ,and larger, man forced his will on anything weeker woman included , the story is allways his story most of our conduct of live was writen by man , so when we die they can,t say we are all equal they have to give male gender to most powerful gods, if gender was used in live after death why have earth -earthman looking to see if i pee standing or sitting
tumoon 09-06-2007, 01:04 AM I agree with u; people seem to hold on to the now because they do not want change, and it is evident in statements of male and female, genders, in the after life as you have said.
They want to hold on to all their Earthly possession and carry the same idea's, hate, jealousy to the after the life, hoping to pay their way in the door of knowledge.
It is just to be, and nothing more, just being makes some people scared.
Just always being and not being is a wonderful place. EVERYWHERE.
warnick 09-06-2007, 02:12 AM tumoon -you are the first person on this site that can see some logic without being masked by emotion , people think it is us 5% logic living people that see this, but it is open to anyone or all ,to think something that is open to all doesn,t make you smart but more aware of somethings that may interrest thoes few, like we said knowing something in system of time that brings death means nothing except point of interrest, we wamt to know all thoes people that got live on earth from o to whatever because if we can,t know everyones live than we shouldn,t know any, to be emotional or logical means nothing because this trip is over for everyone anyway, energy has allready run out in this space and time , thanks tumoon for seeing some logic not mine everyones - earthman
laurajane 09-06-2007, 03:51 PM why do we refer to gender after death , all cultures pass on geans on earth and when we die we would meet all thoes who pased on befor us , if no more need of male or female breeding parts and hormons,why can,t we shake this gender in live after death where there should be nothing but happyness, and love , i think that sence early evalution when mane became the more aggressive ,and larger, man forced his will on anything weeker woman included , the story is allways his story most of our conduct of live was writen by man , so when we die they can,t say we are all equal they have to give male gender to most powerful gods, if gender was used in live after death why have earth -earthman looking to see if i pee standing or sitting
i think what ever you beleve can come true so if you think their is life after death then their is
laurajane 09-06-2007, 10:01 PM I agree with u; people seem to hold on to the now because they do not want change, and it is evident in statements of male and female, genders, in the after life as you have said.
They want to hold on to all their Earthly possession and carry the same idea's, hate, jealousy to the after the life, hoping to pay their way in the door of knowledge.
It is just to be, and nothing more, just being makes some people scared.
Just always being and not being is a wonderful place. EVERYWHERE.
i am scard of diein because i dont know what will happen to me will i go on or will i be a ghost or will i be nothink what about you.
laurajane 09-07-2007, 10:13 PM why do we refer to gender after death , all cultures pass on geans on earth and when we die we would meet all thoes who pased on befor us , if no more need of male or female breeding parts and hormons,why can,t we shake this gender in live after death where there should be nothing but happyness, and love , i think that sence early evalution when mane became the more aggressive ,and larger, man forced his will on anything weeker woman included , the story is allways his story most of our conduct of live was writen by man , so when we die they can,t say we are all equal they have to give male gender to most powerful gods, if gender was used in live after death why have earth -earthman looking to see if i pee standing or sitting
do you think if reincarnoishon is true do you think you can be alive on another world that is diffent from ares.???
tumoon 09-18-2007, 03:49 AM Your very welcome Earthman.
Thanks to u and everyone.
MissGranted 09-20-2007, 05:07 AM Gender can't be reduced to reproductive organs or physical attributes. If that was so, all I would need are the parts and that would be who I am. I am a woman...not because I can produce milk, or because I have a womb...it's because I am the other side of man. The essence of who and what I am is what will move on...not the physical me. I don't think the word of God portrayed woman as a lessor being, but maybe the world does? The powers are very different yet equal. A man can not mother a child no more than the sun can bring full fruition to vegatation without water. There has to be a balance, and the way I see it is that the balance is carried over into the hereafter not for reproduction but for harmony.
warnick 09-20-2007, 02:09 PM MissGranted -what we write is thoughts of logic , yours are of cultural emotion that was put on you by others ,if not you might have chosen to be a budda instead of christian, as for rearing men can do as easily as woman few people know that man can lactate also the same nurve goes to brain and if simulated men can give milk , woman have been beaten by man so long they give into there brainwashing , don,t forget few got to know earth was here you people of emotion talk as if everone could hear any message, we wamt to make everthing a nice neat package even if it doesn,t make sence,we don,t know more than you emotional people nor do you know more than us, like we say stay dizzy as it is the way mother nature wamts you to go through earth, as for the womb soon we will have artifical woums we have spurm banks and have no need of male and female coupling so where is harmony then,of course this post is rhetorical as people of emotion are to brain washed to hear any of this , the one thing both can agree to is love is the patch to mend all problems , earthmen finding logical reason light doesn,t work and emonional people thinking it will work
MissGranted 09-21-2007, 05:54 AM Thank you warnick for the response. I only hope that maybe you'll consider focusing your "thoughts of logic" a little better so that hopefully you can one day diguest my response of "cultural emotion" and understand that my response was a plausable suggestion to your initial posting of "why we refer to gender after death".
Try to focus...I didn't say man could not rear child. I did not speak of harmony in this place. What I spoke of is balance. Since your kind is fixed on numbers add that up, deduct your fuzzy logic, learn the power of 3, then let me know where that falls on your matrix of life.
The only thing you said right was that 1+2=3
warnick 09-21-2007, 03:31 PM MissGranted- first of all we didn,t refer to an i it was we and earthmen, your emotions and hate got into your logic, my post why do we refer to gender in life after death ,it was meant to try and find some people that can think for themselfs and not others before them, you emotional people always try to reflect your thoughts to unproven emotions and believes ,we addressed right but your emotions got in your way because you didn,t like some logic so as the 95% emotional people your emotions took over emotional people reinforce there emotions by acohol, drugs smoking over eating and many othere addictions about the i and kill there bodies and brain cell then try to talk logic, and if we don,t like it they will lash out and kill, mame or other terrible things to people who don,t agree with there selfesh lives thats why the world is in a mess, emotional people run the world and you emotion people will win every time over logic because you are not the you -you think you are- you are of people around you ,thats why 95% do one or all the addictions we said, thoes 95%that can,t see logic will justify thoes things because they can,t stand truth ,being balanced is only for teader toder,if souls should be equal with no body parts that would refer to gender, weman have a hard time with equallity - earthmen hiding in shadows looking out for emotional people that got millions of ways to hurt you as they buddie up with like people who don,t judge them evil hangs with evil - these are logical questains that logical people arn,t afraid to look at ,CHOICE MEANS yOU WERE ABLE TO TAKE IN ALL OPTIONS AND THAN MAKE BEST CHOICE, OUR BRAINS DON,T HAVE ENOUGH MASS TO DO THIS, where does choice come from , you didn,t choose your name to be human or be on earth , you parent or partents, or gardient , colour ,language, so on and so on, now when born your live is started with people making all your choices for you witch will influence the set of choices you will make the rest of your live, someone born in china can,t say i wamt to be born in usa ,people that like certain sounds choice to listen to them because others choice it for they and they by people befor them, if god gave choice than every human would live same amount of time and have equal amount of choices in live, people that write for gods can,t ever say mental illness they say good and evil , there is too mutch for our small brains to take in so we allways look for others to do it for us and that is where conning starts, most people on earth won,t be able to understand this but it is said just because someone else choose it for me and i for someone else so on and so on, earthman choosing to get piece of cake because someone else choose it for me so on so on
Carlan 09-21-2007, 10:45 PM MissGranted, I think that gender is gender based and by that I mean I think that most living things, in order, to reproduce themselves a female and a male of that specie are a basic need.
Man’s Gods needed to be male so that man would always be seen as the dominant force in the world. If a new God would be born in America in today’s American environment that God might very well be female and future Americans would face a female dominant force. If this would happen, life in America would adjust and in a few years America would find out that everything would pretty much remain exactly the same, as it was when God was male nothing of any consequence would change.
I like that old saying that says behind every great man there is even a greater woman or vise versa.
Balance, yes in my world, balance does work best for me as it probably does for the most of you that are out there. But when all things are considered I must admit that most things that go on in that very world seem way out of balance most of the time.
I think despite the seemingly unevenness of female-male relationships, I do think that the closer we come to equilibrium in these relationships the better off all of us will be some day.
MissGranted 09-22-2007, 02:50 AM Warnick,
Some how my response to why there is a common reference to gender after death moved you so deeply that you felt the need to go off on a tangent about your thoughts on 95% of the worlds population.
I do not ask that you adopt my beliefs as your own. I do not ask that you agree with my way of thinking. My beliefs and way of thinking work for ME and that is all that matters. I come here to exchange, and you come here to impose. If this is what works for you...by all means it's your choice.
Since you and I do not share the same views, you feel it necessary to essay your responses about what or who you think I am. Your name calling and extra long, unfocused jibberish do not move me. This tactic may work for you on a weaker kind, so maybe you should stick to those that are smaller than you. You condemn me for my thoughts while failing to offer any proof of your own. The only thing you have are your thoughts and beliefs, if they work for you then that is wonderful. But do not foolishly assume that since I am not like you that I am wrong because neither one of us will know who is right until the end.
warnick 09-22-2007, 01:58 PM MissGranted-once again you don,t read well warnick is not a person it is all 5% that are not of emotion destroying everything in your way , we don't go off that is an emotion we can use words and phrases to make you emotional people react just as you did and can weed out emotion over logic, we hurt your ego and that is why you emotional people lash out ,these are the same thoughts of some of the 5% who looked past there emotions; ,Thales-SOCRATES-ARISTOTLE-Plotinus-,Malebranche-BERKELEY- HUME-KANT-Sartre-so no these are not one persons thoughts but many thoughts of logical people mosly men whitch is my point about woman , we can name many more but we think you get the point, we are not trying to have you think like us that would take many years you can;t change any persons thoughts but simple conversation or writings that is something that emotional people can,t get through there heads -so your wrong again , these arn,t beleives they are formed on as mutch facts as we can get through logic not some dreamey thoughts of emotion ,we can also guess the way you talked and in the culture your in we would say you are in you 40ies, white , middle class, some college , have taken part of one or more of the cultures addictions, and by saying that it is not name calling if you drank or smoked so and so on it is fact , and being closer to death years that birth you are looking for logic of life and death,we are the smalliest minds out there and if we can talk to they as equals then we are happy for let no person stand out more than any other,your right proof after death is unknow but on earth we are closer to logic than emotional people, try to keep in your heads more people die before they knew they were on earth and that there was a universe out there ,lets talk from that point of view if you emotional people can see pass yourselfs , earthmen sorry to see so many emotional people lost in thoughts of past dizzy people and yes you won
MissGranted 09-22-2007, 07:18 PM Warnick,
How then can you say let no man stand out more than any other yet offer a rulling against what you'all think that I am? I am not white, old, middle class, christian, dizzy, have had "some" college, or any other judgement you have passed against me. I find it daunting that you'all assume that your logic brings you closer to the truth and have yet to offer any proof as to why.
If my fundamentals are derived from past dizzy people, where do yours come from?
Because you believe that you are 5% and I am 95%, neither can be considered a whole, but need each other to co exist. In essence, there would be no you without me...and the whole (100%) would be explained by 5% logic and 95% emotion...right? If the greater of the whole is emotion it is likely that it will dominate over the lessor but rely on its exsistance...follow me? In that sence the whole is an emotional being that is limited to 5% carnal logic...which is a requirement for this realm. The logic is limited because it can not see beyond itself so it is anchored to this realm (earth man)...thus anchoring the whole because again, even though the greater is emotion it will consider logic. To transend would defeat logic because it's primary principles would no longer agree. Thus the reasoning behind why logic struggles to survive and convince others that there is nothing else but this place. This realm is for you earthman of 5% logic. You are at home in the land of the right and wrong, light and dark, black and white, rich and the poor because everything makes sense to you here.
warnick 09-22-2007, 10:13 PM MissGranted-very well said- now you are using your logic to put us in our place earthmen apologies for being wrong and bring ourselfs humbly to your feet,you are one of the few that can write outside culture and emotions even if it is just for a moment, you are right we are you- you are we -we are the same species , these are just logical thoughts that no person can live by , we wouldn,t say these things just anywere as not to offend some peoples , on thinkers sites people must be looking for new things to think about or just go over what they already know,we have all chemistry as the 5%or 95% but with practise we can get to locical thought more than people that run with mostly emotion, it doesn,t matter whitch way you go because under time and space this is over,this conversation is just for the few that knew that they were on earth so has no importance in the big picture, logic would not harm soft tissue humans because they would understand how it would feel ,have no borders or flages and mix untill we all see we are the same people,that wouldn,t stop all minds that arn,t perfect but help a whole lot,earthmen thanks if in boxing ring you would have tkoed me in 3 round
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