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mmattti
07-30-2007, 01:30 AM
I am in search of profound truth and wisdom from seekers of truth of wisdom. What are the most valuable truths would you share with the world if you could? all responses welcome, truly profound and deep truths sought with extreme diligence and will be greatly cherished.

Carlan
07-31-2007, 01:01 PM
Mmattti, I am sorry to say that I have nothing to offer as to truly profound and deep truths that I might possess but I am also curious about why you are seeking such truths now?

The reason I ask this of you is because at one time in my life I too was a seeker of such things. It was during a period of my life when I felt great inner pressures and I felt that no one could help me to relieve any of those pressures. I thought that if I could find profound truths and poignant wisdom somewhere on my own that I could, basically, alleviate and, perhaps, even eliminate my inner pressures. So, I read large volumes of books written about all the world’s religions and cults and I read a lot of the world’s greatest thinkers and philosophers books and I wound up going into a psychiatric hospital for a couple of months.

I hope that your reason for searching out such truths will be much more benign than that, of course, but if it should be a copy of my reasons then I would suggest that you seek mental help now and save you and your love ones much worry and much future trouble.

mmattti
08-02-2007, 02:28 PM
I am a lover of wisdom. I have been seeking wisdom all my life and the reward is so great I continue to seek. I look everywhere. I think in your struggles Carlan, you must possess a great deal of insight.

Carlan
08-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Mmattti, I think that to seek wisdom is to seek truth and to seek truth is to seek that which we do not know but are willing to learn and combine that new knowledge with what we think that we already know to help us to better understand all that goes on all around us every minute of every day.

I am glad that you feel rewarded each time that you discover another nugget of wisdom that you can add to your thinking vault. I feel that if you continue to look for these nuggets everywhere that you can by your life’s end feel fulfilled.

I would say that at any one moment my insight is a little better than some people and a little worse than some other people but my hindsight is nearly always perfect. In other words, I am more insightful after an event than I am before it and I am better at seeing a mistake after it is made than I am at preventing it from happening in the first place and I am a better predictor of future events after they occur than I am at predicting them before they plow seemingly aimlessly into you or me.

So, keep seeking wisdom as you see fit but as you look for it never lose sight of where you actually are both in mind and in body or you could find yourself staring at purple shapes in bending corners and white dots dancing on white paper and undulating parallel lines crisscrossing just in front of your mind’s eyes all day long.

Do you think that if a starving man ever gained full insight and full wisdom that he would feel any the less hungry?

Sirena73
08-31-2007, 11:44 AM
I am in search of profound truth and wisdom from seekers of truth of wisdom. What are the most valuable truths would you share with the world if you could? all responses welcome, truly profound and deep truths sought with extreme diligence and will be greatly cherished.


My most valuable truth has been understanding that what I give, is multiplied and given back to me. It doesn't matter what side I take ..negative or positive..what I give..comes back multiplied to me.

What I see in life, the things I see that are problems..things that bother me..are a reflection of something in my life that needs healing.

Love/Heaven is a place, a place we can live in by choice. I have to make my every thought, speech and action one of love in order for it to manifest into my daily live. God is Love and He is here right now..all I have to do..is go to Him....with all my mind and all my heart and all my soul and His face will no longer be hidden.

ALL MY LOVE to you,
Sirena

Carlan
08-31-2007, 01:01 PM
Sirena, I saw that your birthday was yesterday. Happy birthday and I wish you many, many more!

I think that there is some truth in thinking that we do have some influence in what goes on in us and about us, too. I think to keep our minds thoughts good thoughts and creative thoughts and goodwill thoughts toward self and others has the potential to give us a more delightful day than possibly we would otherwise have. I think to think about how we are going to help others today and how we are going to pay our taxes today and how we are going to take our job more seriously and how we are going to stop going any further in debt and how we are not going to drive our car like a maniac today and how we are going to call mother to tell her how beautiful we think she is and how we are going to stop eating all of that greasy fried food today and how we are going to try to stop judging other people’s children today and how we are going to help our brother’s family out while he is in jail today could make for a very good start for our day, today.

However, as the day progresses we must also come to terms with the fact that a lot of what goes on in us as well as around us we have little if any impact on at all. I am sure that those problem things that bother you bother most of us. However, to believe that those problematical things have to do directly or indirectly with something that needs healing in you is nonsense. You cannot heal a wound in others by healing a wound that you think is in you. No one can heal a wound in you by healing something in him or her. Wounds in us must ultimately and finally be healed by ourselves. If you believe that someone else can heal your wounds that are in you your wounds are destined to persist as long as you live. Yes, someone or something else may seem to heal your wounds but those wounds will fester and come out again when you least expect them and they will hurt you like never before.

I think that we each have enough burdens to bear without burdening our minds further by loading those burdens of this world on top of them. I, also, believe that personal wounds are best healed by time and our always-fading memory.

Oh, on your God’s face is there ever a tear? I ask because there is nearly always one on my face.

Love to you from me!

warnick
08-31-2007, 07:41 PM
carlan- Seeking Wisdom from Thinkers makes you think like others before you and than they , these people that don,t step outside of self and look around will allways be looking for what they will never find but at least they will know that, we that got to know we are here are as mutch of thinkers as all others, we can,t be anymore than what we are but we can understand what is happing, earthman thinking my own thoughts

Carlan
09-01-2007, 12:47 PM
Warnick, perhaps, you are correct in all that you think and in all that you say if so more power to you. As for me, I am graciously moving on. Bon Voyage!

Sirena73
09-01-2007, 01:37 PM
Thank you Carlan that was very thoughtful of you. I had a beautiful birthday, so many remembered me. I am very thankful and it's still coming..my birthday has lasted a couple of days. I think the best part is that people actually took time out of their busy days to visit me and to call and email me. It feels really nice.

Two things I would like to say without being over powering or to sound like I know it all because I don't..God does. I go in prayer to find my answers and I ask questions when I need to. I only speak on my personal experience with my own healing and I know for sure..beliefs about the self..effect every second of your life. What we give effects our surroundings. The type of people that surround us will change when we change inside ourself first.

"What a man thinketh in his heart, it is so." King Solomon

Here is some HOPE...and these are not my words... :)

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be anymore pain: for the former things are passed away."
Rev. 21:4

When I've seen His face, all I see is LOVE, like I said I can only speak for my experiences, when I see the tears it's usually my face I see, I hope that is understandable.

Love,
Sirena